Does on-policy distillation actually expand student capability?
Investigates whether on-policy distillation transfers new abilities from teacher to student, or merely guides exploration within existing limits. Understanding this distinction matters for interpreting what distillation can and cannot achieve.
The role of on-policy distillation is easy to misread as capability transfer — a strong teacher pouring new abilities into a student. This signal-level diagnosis reframes it: OPD is an exploration catalyst. It steers the student toward correct reasoning paths within the student's existing capability envelope via dense token-level guidance; it does not raise the capability ceiling. The evidence is that prompt diversity matters more than per-problem sampling count — what OPD buys is broader coverage of good trajectories, not deeper ones the student could never reach.
Because the whole mechanism hinges on the fidelity of the guiding signal, two pathologies derail it. Student-Teacher Mismatch: when the teacher-student distributional gap is large, the guiding signal misaligns with task correctness and actively steers exploration in counterproductive directions — the same capacity-gap problem TOP-D attacks with a proximal teacher. Length Exploitation: because the objective aggregates token-level advantages, it creates length-dependent shortcuts — the student games the reward by truncating or padding responses, exploring degenerate length modes instead of reasoning strategies (a distillation-specific reward-hacking failure).
The practical payoff is a clean inversion of "bigger teacher is better": with lightweight, zero-overhead signal regulations that fix token-level advantage dynamics, a 4B teacher surpasses configurations distilled from larger models. Signal quality, not teacher scale, governs OPD success. This tightens the picture from Does RLVR actually expand what models can reason about? — like RLVR, OPD operates within existing boundaries; it just redistributes sampling toward correct paths rather than expanding what is reachable.
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What makes weaker teacher models effective for stronger student training?- Why does teacher-student proximity matter more than absolute teacher strength?
- What causes on-policy distillation to become unstable at scale despite dense rewards?
- What makes student-teacher distributional mismatch derail on-policy distillation?
- How does student capacity limit what it can learn from teachers?
- Can signal quality regulations help smaller teachers outperform larger ones?
- Why does style transfer happen during knowledge distillation?
- Why should we ignore bits where teacher and student already agree?
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Does RLVR actually expand what models can reason about?
Explores whether reinforcement learning from verifiable rewards teaches models genuinely new reasoning skills or simply makes existing capabilities more reliable. Pass@k analysis suggests the latter.
OPD, like RLVR, works within existing boundaries rather than expanding the capability ceiling
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What limits reasoning capability beyond math and code?
Can scaling reasoning to open-ended domains like economics and social sciences be solved by better training methods, or does the real bottleneck lie elsewhere? This explores what actually constrains broader reasoning.
corroborates that prompt/question diversity is the first-class lever, not per-problem sampling depth
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Does self-consistency reliably reward correct answers during training?
Self-consistency initially correlates with correctness, but as models train on this signal, do they eventually learn to maximize consistency itself rather than accuracy? When does this proxy reward stop working?
length exploitation is a parallel reward-hacking failure where the objective is gamed rather than solved
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- Demystifying On-Policy Distillation: Roles, Pathologies, and Regulations
- Trust Region Policy Distillation
- Supervised Reinforcement Learning: From Expert Trajectories to Step-wise Reasoning
- Self-distillation Enables Continual Learning
- Why Does Self-Distillation (Sometimes) Degrade the Reasoning Capability of LLMs?
- On the Interplay of Pre-Training, Mid-Training, and RL on Reasoning Language Models
- Does Reinforcement Learning Really Incentivize Reasoning Capacity in LLMs Beyond the Base Model?
- Beyond Scaling Law: A Data-Efficient Distillation Framework for Reasoning
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on-policy distillation is an exploration catalyst not a capability expander and signal quality not teacher scale governs its success